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John Mayo, of ComicBookPage, and Kay Kellam, of PopArtsPlace, have a spoiler filled discussion about the first season of Gotham.  Discussing the show set in the city that inspires Bruce Wayne to become Batman, set in the time when Oswald Cobblepot is just becoming the Penguin (and starting to embrace the name that was once a derogatory nickname he avoided) and when gangster like mobs ran the city under the leadership of more family like structures led by Carmine Falcone and Sal Maroni.

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This podcast episode originated on the Comic Book Page website:http://www.ComicBookPage.com

Fantastic Four (2005)

John Mayo, of ComicBookPage, and Kay Kellam, of PopArtsPlace, have a spoilers filled discussion about the Fantastic Four movie for 2005.  Ten years ago the Fantastic Four’s origin story was told, in a movie that starred Ioan Gruffudd as Reed Richards, Jessica Alba as Sue Storm, Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm, Julian McMahon as Victor von Doom / Doctor Doom, and Kerry Washington as Alicia Masters.

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Fantastic Four @ IMDB.com: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120667/
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This podcast episode originated on the Comic Book Page website:http://www.ComicBookPage.com

The Flash Welcomes Robbie Amell

Robbie Amell Live Tweet FlashIt is hard to say what the most anticipated show of any television season is, even if you narrow it down to a network or genre, but while many were talking about FOX’s Gotham, lovers of the super-hero were also eagerly awaiting the arrival of the CW’s Flash.

Gotham was the subject of a great deal of conversation and buzz in large part because so little was truly known before the first episode was aired.  Bruno Heller is a name in television, in so much as he is the man behind Patrick Jane and the Mentalist, but that is to the eyes of many a show of a different genre and thus could fans rely use that show to judge what they would be getting in Gotham?

The Flash on the other hand had several advantages.  Not only is it coming from the same production team behind Arrow, but Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) appeared in two episodes of Arrow which laid the groundwork for The Flash.  The episodes were not created to feel like a backdoor pilot, but rather introduced Barry Allen as a character that most of the audience knew, or suspected, would have a show of his own in the coming season and was worth paying that extra little bit of attention to.

Tonight in the season’s third episode, The Flash introduces Ronnie Raymond / Firestorm, played by Robbie Amell (real life cousin of Stephen Amell aka Arrow.)  This is something fans have known about for quite some time and have been eagerly anticipating.  Thus far The Flash has built it’s world, and helped the audience to understand the circumstances in which the characters are existing.  S.T.A.R. Labs particle generator turned on, and for a while seemed to work — and then it didn’t.  And with something like that, when things go wrong, they go very wrong.  Then we take into account we are in the DC Universe, and when gamma radiation and magically scientific sounding things are flung out into the air — superheros are created!  (Or so the non-science version goes.)

The Flash LogoSo far the audience has gotten to know Barry Allen’s work life, and Detective Joe West (Jesse L. Martin) who raised him and is now the cop he works with most often.  His personal life, or what there is of it, in the form of his one true friend, and psuedo foster-sister, Iris West (Candice Patton) who is in College studying journalism, and the S.T.A.R. Labs team who stabilized Barry while he was in a coma and is now helping him to find other meta-humans and make sure the accidents consequences aren’t more than Central City can handle.

At S.T.A.R. Labs, the equivalent of The Flash’s Arrow Cave, Barry is working with Caitlin Snow (Danielle Panabaker), Cisco Ramon (Carlos Valdes),  and the hard to decipher and trust, Harrison Wells (Tom Cavanagh) who was the director of S.T.A.R. Labs when everything went up in smoke.

With the introduction of Ronnie Raymond, not only are fans getting a glimpse of Caitlin Snow before the accident, but we are also getting our first addition to the show, a recurring character who will be introduced in a manner where it feels from the start that he is meant to be here, meant to be a part of the world and the audience is intended to want him to survive and recur.   No offense to Chad Rook who played Clyde Mardon in the pilot, but his evil self was there for our hero to battle and conquer, much as Michael Smith’s Danton Black, aka Multiplex,  was in the second episode for The Flash to discover the hero within and just what he was capable of.  Neither of those characters felt like integral parts of The Flash’s world, but rather stepping stones the plot and characters needed to keep us moving forward.

Where some shows need an entire season to lay the foundation before they can start digging deep, it appears with episode three The Flash is ready to dive in and start giving fans the good, the bad, and the back-story.

The Flash airs Tuesdays on the CW at 8PM / 7 Central

Robbie Amell Live Tweet Flash

Arrow vs. Gotham

Gotham - Another Great Image (C) CW, this one found on Facebook

Gotham – Another Great Image (C) CW, this one found on Facebook

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say I want to take a moment to talk about the DC Universe currently being brought to life on the small screen.  Taking Starling City as presented in CW’s Arrow and Gotham in Fox’s Gotham as the two shows currently shining brightly and with the most episodes to date to talk about.  Yes, Flash now has two episodes out of the box, and will probably garner a few remarks, but Arrow is entering its third season, and with four very solid episodes already out Gotham has a head start on Flash in the department of world and character building.

Over the course of two seasons the CW has shown on Arrow that they can build a solid world.  Without a doubt that may be one of the show’s greatest accomplishments.  Someone who has never read the comic books (myself for instance) can come to the show, a novice when it comes to all of the characters, jump right in with the first episode, and understand virtually everything they are seeing and being exposed to.  Arrow takes the time to explain the things that need explaining, and speaks with authority about things like ARGUS so even when I am not sure what the abbreviation stands for, I am positive it holds meaning in their universe and if I needed to know, they would, in that moment at least, make sure I knew (whether or not I retain the information for the long haul).

Gotham‘s first four episodes do a wonderful job of bringing to life the complex world in which Bruce Wayne evolved from a confused boy seeing his parents brutally murdered into the man we will all come to know as Batman.  He is, right now, learning, discovering, in so many ways he is witnessing and becoming.  Directly and indirectly Bruce Wayne is being influenced by Gotham, and Gotham is helping the boy (whether it means to or not) form the foundation that will in turn create Batman.  Alfred and Detective James Gordon are solid male role models in his life.  Trying to help to understand what he is seeing, trying to explain the complexities of the world around him, and make sense of the way the adult world operates — recognizing that it is not always right, and sometimes our first instinct of what to do, what feels like an easy way to help is not necessarily the best way in which to offer aid.

Where Arrow is full of action and intensity as Oliver Queen and team Arrow take down those who have failed Starling City, Bruce Wayne feels powerless as he is forced by his age and lack of skills to sit by and watch the goings on of a corrupt Gotham.  Gotham is a show about the underside of a city, about the mob-era the inspired a boy to become so much more than it is likely anyone ever imagined he might be, and the criminals who challenged him, inspired him, and convinced him someone had to stand up for what was right, and give his city hope that Gotham could become a better place to live.

Gotham airs Mondays on FOX at 8 PM / 7 Central
Arrow airs Wednesdays on CW at 8 PM / 7 CentralArrowS03

If you haven’t already — check out our Arrow Podcasts:

 Arrow Season 2 Podcast – a spoiler filled discussion of Season 2 with John Mayo of ComicBookPage and Kay Kellam of PopArtsPlace

Arrow Season 1 Podcast – A spoiler filled discussion of Season 1 of Arrow, with John Mayo of ComicBookPage and Kay Kellam of PopArtsPlace